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------------------ Update ---------------------
- Song Updated.
( Added some new song ).
- Information Updated.
( Added some information site ).
--------------------- EBS ---------------------------
today recess i heard HL though me that my 2nd EBS project the retailing Store got a full marks. well i not really believe it. but well i need to go find Alawden for mark conformation.
( To Be Continue )...
-------------------- Maths revision ----------------
Mid exam is drawing near in few days time. well couple of things i needed to look out for.. well this after school i went look for my maths teacher for some revision and understanding about some maths format. but well it interesting! well even under stress but manage to to make it.. hopefully it could make it every time. well beside that he also talk to me about army and how the last time army are.. but well days over days. thing are getting better. well hopefully even story are in.. but im still have to get ready about exam.
This coming monday for my school it a school holiday.. well maybe it my best time to get more revision.. and tomorrow, Saturday it the day i go out with HL to Queen town.. for Shirts making. hopefully it can be done within few days.. =(
-------------------- Update -------------------
- Event/ Seasonal Updated.
( Added some New ).
- Information Updated.
( Added some new information website ).
---------------- Mid Exam --------------------
day by day it drawing near.. Express and N.A Just recently started their papers. well Ours will be next week.. well i was requested from teacher to pass some thing.. well of cause i will but just hope i could past some time that i must pass.. well this exam looks big.. but not comment test.. well just hope i could get what i wants and what teacher wants.
Wednesday, April 28, 2010
------------------- Update ------------------
- Profile Detail Updated.
( edited some new information ).
- Student T/L Updated.
( Edited some mistake ).
------------------- Ebs -------------------
Today EBS lesson, my seat was changed once again. well lucky it just right in front of my old seats. well still can be seen.. and News Release! after the mid year exam.. My teacher said that we going to have others project coming up. well it say it simple.. well i will remember he the previous project the teacher edited some items inside. " once teacher starts to edit that piece of paper.. Look Out! it not going to be good. ".. only remember that.. that is damn dangerous! because it counted as CA marks.. well Alawden said.. " im don't have nothing to against you.. and i just only wants you all to learn.. " but.. well just one word only wants clear everything?.. what a fail.. then he should'en give some much action make until some people don't like it. well just some kind on bull nonsense.. carp.
-------------------- Mid Year --------------------
Next week mid year will start.. and well thing will still be hosted and publish as well.. but it just kind of busy and , mind not hosted on the right day.. So hopefully triple tasking.. lol
------------------- Update -----------------------
- Profile Updated.
( Added new detail ).
- Student T/L
( Edited New Labels ).
------------------------- EBS ---------------------------
Today EBS lesson im the 2nd part/ first person present.. well i can see that noisy Alawden talk again.. well it totally act like a expert presenter and say like our presentation too wordy or what we can improve in.. what others ects. well when i was presenting he say too wordy.. and say my photo to clowned.. then world cannot see.. What the hell?! then others people contras cannot see they never say anything. then some too nonsense, some totally out of presenting point. some don't know what happen.. then power point just look so childish.. then teacher never say anything but only say yours too wordy.. erm.. you can try edit it.. well he don't even know what is wordy.. then he keep say wordy..
( this teacher is just too extras.. Act only.. Hopeless [ Alawden ] ).
Wordy : Too Many worlds in one time at a single side document.
Tips of power point - not too wordy [ Not more then 12 words per power point ]*.
well mine is totally quite short.. and actually still got more to add on. well he just keep on offense us. what is this?
---------------- Event ----------------
last friday is the 8th exco pass down to the 9th exco. and today it the Red cross day!
well it just a short time they can get so many event done.. and today im going out with my friends find some T-shirt maker... well hopefully can find it in a cheap price.

----------------- Red Cross Youth day! ------------------
this morning, the red cross hosted the red cross day in our school.. and other primary school student came along too. this event takes longer time to end.. and so we have 3 shift. so mine is at the morning shift 7pm and 10 pm.
and one of our most senior came back.. well i litter miss-behave then i make him piss of then he ran alway.. well i also meet one of the red cross senior use to be our x-school student.. well she knew me but i not sure who is she... well then she talking to my senior i just purposely make him angry so that how he ran alway.. lol.. well it my first time i saw her.. but it not really like it, it just like.. i feel like i knew her but i can't remember who is she..
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--------------------- Self Ava-T -------------------------
well this afternoon, hl and me go Woodlands point/ Marsilling there look for Shirts marker.. but in the end don have... but they have plans marker and pairing shirt and plans. well then hl said maybe 1st of may we go Queensway.. the easiest one but it also the furthers one.. well fail this time.. but next time i hope i can get it.. even it the furthers one.
( Re Published : 24-4-10/ 2.37 )
------------------ Update ---------------
- Information Updated. ( added some new site ).
----------------------- EBS --------------------------
Today is our first EBS project 3 presentation, then when i went in the computer lab. then mr Alawden our Ebs teacher changed some of our seats.. well he changed my seat all the way back of the end. well i totally can't see. well i told them that i can see.. then mr Alawden said nothing for me see at the screen.. well presentation ler.. some more other thing like lesson.. so do you expect me to keep bring my chair to front always?! that unfair to me.. why need me kept moving? well when the presentation started.. when i was seating in front but the teacher were all be hide only mrs bazura walking around. then they did their presentation on their own seats. but they never stand up.. why?? this Mr Alawden make thing so lazy some time.. and crazy always.. then some more help them with their work. when they presentation also talk a lot like act-if he knew a lot of present thing skill.. but i can see his not. so when they presenting. i can see their answer and reply are 70% Nonsense! well
exp: say about why you like this country? Answer is : i love this country and their food tests nice or their country has a flashes air, And then they got beautiful places then singapore. what the hell.. like that teacher also say very good. die le lar*. i think next time go ITE or POLY they have this answer.. i don't know what will happen.. well lucky today they only stuck at the person next to me.. that means next ebs lesson maybe is me or some one else.. hopefully.
( To Be Continue )......
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-------------------- Right hand wrist -------------------
haiz.. pain it back well i can't carried anymore those heavy staff anymore until it fully recovered.
it needs few mouths, to get fully recovered... well they doctor asked me to get the adjustable wrist pouch or they have to help me put cast. suey..
------------------- Self AVA T ---------------------
i can't push anymore the back.. well it getting late, and mid exam it coming. damn! And i was looking around where can make T-shirt that is cheaper. well $20 plus to $15 plus. well hopefully i can find it this week.
(Re Update : 21/4/10
-------------------- Cbox -------------------- To Dear: Christina. Unit in cbox.
yeye.. please don try act hero here. now! i never offend you anything here! don try step big. you don even know the history you don never know what happening so Shut up! what make you thinking you can call me CAG? Who you think you are. so what you have gang out side? so that the point you can strike in? i tell you! you wont be able to get in easy. ( SGEF Support Foundation & Blog Masters of the owner & Friends).
-------------------- AVA --------------------
this morning i so damn unlucky.. well when it having the national anthem then song dies off suddenly.. then i help my junior pull out the portable speaker out then on the volume loud. after that follow by the mine dies off also. then my junior went up fix it. then one of the teacher came to me and scolded me. why there no extra mines for them to use when the sound dies off? he said.. well actually i wanted to expend, but he just one sentence shut me off. " but what but? no mine means no mine!." then he just walk off. haiz. just like that so unlucky. damn next time i should use the newest portable!
------------------- Cbox ------------------------ (CP auto ban banned : 121.6.115.112 ( reason: annoying things. ( Days: Not Stated )).
From : JusticeRage
'Oliva' i will have to tell you. give out.. you wont be able to keep fool-ings around here. stop your annoying. and you don't look like 22 years old. if your are, you wont be able to max with us. becuase you just like a small kid & girl fighting. so now, i knew you were 22 year old. you said. and how you know my old stupid gay who dream to give you the permission to called me that? oh...! by the way you didn't get my newest update of me.. too bad. that why im stronger now. you wont be able to fool now. im not that childish by the way. im smart not like you fox!
And also i got too lazy to ban you off. everyone will just ignore you. since you so childish.. so let you be. see ya!
( SGEF Support Foundation & Blog Masters of the owner & Friends).
------------------ Update ---------------------
- Mission Updated.
( removed something of special /seasonal events ).
----------------- Mid year exam ---------------------
Mid year is Coming! shcoo~ aww it almost near. well time it fast, we can't it them when they kept on going. but this may is a boss firings day. hopefully we could get it. but i gonna stop working for that time being. it so risky~. but i scared i fail again. well hope go people get help us out. but still Love Studying. it the get style we had. =)
Mid time table for NT
6th of may {thu} - EL P1 ( 0800-0940h [ 1h 40 mins ]) EL P2 ( 1030-1140h [ 1hr 10mins])
7th of may {Fri} - Basic MT (MCQ) ( 0800-0830h [ 30mins ]) Basic MT (LC) (0930-1000h [30mins])
10th of may {mon} - CPA P1 ( 0800-0915h [ 1hr 15mins ])
11th of may {tue} - CPA P2 *3EXL (Com Lab 1 & 2) ( 0930-1100h [ 1hr 30mins]) CPA P2 *3CHR (Com Lab 1 & 2) ( 1130-1300h [ 1hr 30mins])
12th of may {wed} - Element of Business Skill (EBS) ( 0800-0930h [ 1hr 30mins ])
13th of may {thu} - Science ( 0800-0915h [ 1hr 15mins ])
14th of may {Fri} - Maths ( 0800-0930h [1hr 30mins])
- on 11/5 (tue), 3 Chr are to Report to NE Library at 1030hrs for attendance-taking and quarantine.
*Student who do not have any paper for that day are not required to attend school.
*Student must be in school by 9am if they have paper/s on Tuesday.
*Student are not Required to attend school on Monday 17th May 2010 as it is designated as marking day.
--------------------- RS (Rune Online) ----------------------
New skill Release not long ago! Dungeoneering. well it fun and it Awesome! beside training your dungeoneering inside. it also can train others skill like.( FOR NON_MEMBER ).
ect. Friemarking, Smithing, Woodcutting, Fishing, RuneCrafting, magic, cooking and even preyer.
well it a fun online game.
web - http://www.runescape.com/kbase/guid/dungeoneering
My high score - http://services.runescape.com/m=hiscore/hiscorepersonal.ws
-------------------- Cbox -------------------
(CP auto ban banned : 121.6.115.112 ( reason: spamming & annoying things. ( Days: Not Stated )).
From : JusticeRage, Jorhan ( Blog 2nd assistance).
'Oliva' has been banned due to annoying and extra - for unreasonable of disturb and dis-Rule to others Property and being Un-Respectful to others and breaking the Rules. for the result We have to been her off.
( SGEF Support Foundation & Blog Masters of the owner with the Assistance & Friends).
----------------------- Update ------------------------
- Gaming information Name Updated. ( Gaming info. ).
( section name Updated ).
----------------- Oral exam -------------------
just now i had my engilsh oral. when we have to go to other people class for mid oral exam.. well, when i was waiting it was damn boarding... i was walking around the class room reading others people articles.. when i was trying to whisper to my friend outside which some how called timer but is the first paper who take the exam. so he was telling me that.. im going to be the last person.. ' okay sound boarding '. So when the last two person went out, it started to rain heavily. then they started to shift far alway from the class. so when the time i the only one who in the class.. so went they shifted.. i feel like.. ' OMG.. left me.. im alone right now.. ' so i started to walk around outside the class.. wait for them to called me... well when they called me after i sit down.. they give me the oral exam feedback form.. well just wrote me name, class and today's date. and start to read.. well seriously no problem.. and that timer when off.. totally left me. zzz
so when i started to read.. it sound like i never prepare well.. but is still fine.. but at conversation i feel that i talk too much to the Examiner.. lol. so when i got my feed back form back.. i saw is very thing on the 2nd box out of 4. and no comments. well possible to get 16~22 marks ... but it a nice Experience that no falls on orals. lol
------------------ Update --------------------
- Protected Updated.
( Eeling's link had been Changed ).
----------------- yesterday mac --------------------
yesterday when i was working my hand was feeling fine.. but also few a litter pain because i warp my hand and medical oil bandage.. so i wont be that pain. but lucky got new crew came for ' OJE ' try out section. so my manager asked me to teach him.. but well i look at it and most of the thing he knew that to do.. and after 4.30, is the time that OJE ends. so all long i can do is to get the tray and clean it.. but i can't mop the floor.. =.=
well i was so tired and hand start feeling again pain and pain... well my manager ask me want go home earlier or not.. will my lobby heaven finish it, haiz try and do it finish.. then i was so frustrated. they the hell HL pull me at sunday?! haiz.. then this coming friday and sunday i can be excuse ...
------------------ News of today ---------------------
feeling the same sensation as the thing like yesterday but it on the school. haiz.. still the worst in my live.. why is it must be happening the same thing all over again?!' i hate my science lesson! and the stupid editor of EBS teacher! this is the carp lesson! ' well this started. my science lesson stuck in the same behavior, my EBS teacher is getting busted but not the assistance EBS teacher. what the sh3t heck they doing?! and sadden asked us to do slide history on every town that we went to go, then why make the lesson until like history lesson like that? this is ebs. why can't they do it that is listed on that piece of paper? heck!
then we also need to do the power point resource file that contain the thing we need to do for the power point. means that if that person point ask us that fine history of that place then we need to copied down the hole information then placed at the word document. or else we get zero if we don have that world document, even how good we do the power point. that the hell?! why make the hold thing so complicated?
---------------------- Ebs --------------------- well just now i spend for an hour to edited my Project 3. and add the history in it and make the Ebs resource file also. well it not easy to use the history then typing in your own words as in a simple and short form. even those history thing are easy to be found.. but they are not easy to be translate or turn into a simple short form as in a correct way.. but i believe that most people can do better.. but as i said.. this idiot project looks easy.. but once teacher starting to edit that piece of paper.. Look Out! it not going to be good.
------------------------- Cbox -----------------------
Hopefully the war could just ended in a normal living.. but still, the unknown until of oilva.. will be banned of if she going to extra here again.. so hopefully it will end.
( By : SGFE PMilitary Support ).
------------------- Mac ----------------------
Damn it! today or maybe i going to work with my and sprained. carp.. well last friday after my dad bring me to yishun sensei, i back mac with my hand unwrap.. but then my hole left hand covered with medical oil... then they said chinese sensei is not trusted! the best is you go Polytechnic check and get a x-ray. well sound fair enough.. because, in the right to do is go get the x-ray.. but i knew Polytechnic is cheap.. but my Mom wanted to save money then my dad bring me to chinese sensei. well for today i not sure my hand it going to work well or not.. but i fill that by wrist is not that bad like on friday.. but i can still fill pain in it.. they tough me not to carry those heavy staff.. then my hand also cannot turn well.. haiz.. im dead trouble.. sh3t*. = (
----------------------- Cbox
Wars ReMains.. The story Continues, a Foundation of SGEF PM Rules of the fight or trouble im anyways of form.. they are Protected in the file that unable to be showed . any the imformation of " Oilva "this until, this point of war and unstoppable requested for something on her/his mind, Im sorry. for my apologize that im not really sure who are you? your reason in this Cbox is define im sorry that his war has ended quite long ago.. if you really wanted to request some thing, please say it in one word or please don be a Mysterious person.. and also mind your language. Thank you!
( By: SGFE PMilitary Support ).
------------------------------------- Sprain
yesterday about 7pm plus my dad bring me to yi shun sensei help me on my left wrist.. well today is still feel a litter bit pain.. shit
then sunday i still got work.. God.. well maybe i need to to the bandage they given me.. haiz omg.. well hope tomorrow lobby wont have so much things for me to do... =X
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- Name Card and Reason of sickness.
- Receipt .
- Herbal sticker pouch x4
( 4 day 4 night ).
- pill for blood increase and pain killer x 10 in each pack.
- bandage for working and schooling.. x2
( 1 bandage can be used 2 times ).
--------------------- Cbox
Wars ReMains.. The story Continues, a Foundation of SGEF PM Rules of the fight or trouble im anyways of form.. they are Protected in the file that unable to be showed . any the imformation of " Oilva "
this unti, this point of war and unstoppable requested for something on her/his mind, Im sorry. for my apologize that im not really sure who are you? and what makes you think that you really know about justice what he has done. And what do you really see on your own eye? im sorry that his war has ended quite long ago.. if you really wanted to request some thing, please say it in one word or please don be a Mysterious person.. and also mind your language. Thank you!
( By: SGFE PMilitary Support ).
------------------------ Test remain ------------------------
oral of the day! well i knew i will fail my chinese.. so, haha ' for sure '.. well monday is our engilsh oral.. well hope it should't be any problem.. " i too addticted on low kay hwa book.." -.-
well possible if i could beat them in oral.. well seriously.. im god or something..
------------------ sprain
sian Maybe i going to see doctor again.. My hand Damn pain T_T
lasy year i fall and i sprained my head badly... well the pain of my hand is back.. well hope it could recover soon.. I CAN"T WORK TOMORROW SOBX! T_T
---------- Re-Update of sprain ( at 5.30pm. )
Carp.. i just called my manager and off my name for saturday.. then Mx and manager suddenty said i got work today at 4pm+.. omg he got to be kinding.. then saturday and sunday as well.. god. im i going to work with my hand sprained? omg.. shit it came in at the wrong time.. shit well here cames the problem.. what i do with my hand.. shit. shit.. ahh!!
-------------------- EBS ----------------------
3rd simple EBS Project is released! well today EBS lesson my teacher gave us the 3rd project.. it sound simple.. but it sound easy too.. well suppose to do it in class. but for me i just heck care.
while i see other of my class mate doing.. well it fine.. by look at thier skill.. but teachter came and said " his going around and show him our project page one by one to check " well.. mistake check and others staff.. but end up helping them to tell them what to add u and look nice for presentation.. well THAT'S NOT FAIR! why can't he asked to show thier true skill but helping them? they never learn anything.. wth.. well they work seens so out dated. haiz.. i faster get up before one of them cush in.
---------------- Update ------------------
- Song Updated.
( Added some new song ).
------------------ Stories ---------------------
boarding but not even interest us went some lesson that we encounter it.. well just what i said.. addicted on games is not a nice things in our live once your wishes came in front of you. is just like when we were trying to fight though some thing that wanted for long.. just some thing that hit you down.. once you started to got lazy.. and some how, some thing that pull you down.. well for me 50% percent in live are failure i can't success in everything what i wanted for long.. but now days. i wanted for shang hai trip but i fail to be in it.. it class mate got into caning in morning.. and i got into a wrong class for this hole year.. i mate some unless friends.. i got a carp and damn science teacher, lastly i got into a lot friends ship problem & trouble .. and i fell bad for all those carp thing which i supposed to done it well in the first place and now days my hand is damn pain for nothing due to last year sprained my left hand... I wander What The Hell is wrong now.. with the situation right now.. im making my self bur.... where should i start it? and when should i stop it.. well haiz.. wait for true ways on my self.. T_T
----------------- TEST & EXAM --------------------
Test and exam.. even spelling test.. carp.. well i though it challenging but sound fun enough when real challenge started but.. now day and included chinese spelling it sound making it worsts. well it hate spelling in my hold live.. why can't they just stop it?! god..
------------------------- Update --------------------------
- Event slot Updated.
( Countdown slot will be disable from today onwards until i got a countdown box Thanks for your consent ).
----------------------- Late Coming ----------------------
this morning my from teachter miss understanding for non-late student..
well this morning i was doing Ava dutys then when i saw my class mate taking the engilsh news paper.. then i also take one news paper along when i walk pass.. then i saw my from teachter is there as well.. then i went back to my Ava duty. while i was reading Kow Kay Hwa story book, i saw my from teachter walk pass me. well when after my ava-dutys i when back to my class... when it the 2nd period of my lesson.. my from teachter came in and ask.. is dotin kee here?.. when everyone say yeah.. then i was like o.o yeah why? looking for me lar? then she said " no.. were you late just now ? "
" no.. " i said.. ( OMG !! all along i was inside the school since early morning of 6. then she walk pass me.. then i took my news paper i saw her.. then all along she never saw me?! WHA!! Scarly ).
Then when i went home, my mom asked me.. " why your teachter called me for.. i tought all along you were in school.. " well next time i should wear a light color Tee to school.. -_-''
------------------------ mid year exam ---------------------
Carp.. this thursday is our mid oral exam.. damn.. well sound fast enough and i have not even get ready yet.. arh.. well i should start doing some thing for now days..
mid exam is near here.. HELP! =X
----------------------- EBS --------------------------
Today EBS lesson.. it sound boreding for me... well my class mate have to do the 2nd EBS project.. well i had done last thursday which got some negative feed back.. well i even heard some negative feed back to day which people said i show off.. well i got nothing to said. but well i just feel that at list give some respect to me while i helping to solve your problem.. well it just keep saying show off.. well i got peace off and walk away.. well i wander whats wrong with you people.. haiz..
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- Event slot ( News )
( Maybe i have to disable this countdown slot but i will still remain the old countdown slot there until i got a new countdown slot.. so hope i could find a new countdown slot as fast as possible ).
------------------------ Easter Day -----------------------
HAPPY EASTERN DAY TO EVERYONE!
hope.. you have fun eating with your family members In Easter day!
---------------------- Mom Birthday --------------------
Happy Birthday To My Mom!!
Yesterday night we celebrate her birthday.. well.. my brother brought when to ordered large cake.. then no one could able to finish it.. well still my mom said put it at the Frige ( refrigerator )... then i was like.. god. they going out tomorrow i don want to eat that large cake! arh...! well.. no choice eat it. zzz
Wish my Mom A happy Birthday!
---------------------- HAPPY APRILFUL DAY!! ---------------------
HAPPY APRILFUL DAY!!
well today it the 1st of april which a lot people was playing tricky.. tricky.. included me! and today i tricky to a lot of people! even our school discipline teacher! well but even we doing be we still have be careful, because we still have to respect others and not get into any trouble. So
WISH EVERYONE A HAPPY APRILFUL DAY!!
------------ Class Temporary lowed level News ------------
My class has been chnaged to needle workroom/ maths resource room.. which it beside staff room 2.. well actually it supposed to go 3 respect class.. so they changed us to needle workshop to our temporary class.. and 3 excel class will temporary become the needle workroom.
well it will be very hard for me running up and down for wires.. and i also can't leave it that the class or anywhere.. so the best way i will keep it with me. well hope this class.. will not last for years. or it still going to be a very big mass.
-------------------------- EBS ----------------------------
The Worst day never in my LIVE! because even we shifted to needle workroom. but today my teachter was asking to present the last presentation for the EBS Project one. after finish the last presntation, he was asking that we have to present the 2nd project is the retailing store which have to go other shop take picture and tell what in his store about and what is thier retail. and then he asked " who has aready finsh it? " and i the one who did it. long ago since after i finish off my Express Solo. then everyone pointed me. well my teachter and eveyone was just looking at me.. then i was like.. OKok.. fine.. then he said show them that how you did the work.. i did not notice that he also wanted me to present my work. so when i was opening up my work.. my teachter said. " He has did a wonderful job and everyone have to try learn it from me." and said " have a cross of cross" eveyone clapping and cheering. some people just said Boo!~loosy! and ba-aid sia kai hong! when i was like.. ( WHAT THE HELL!STOP IT STOP IT! ). well everyone just cheer. God damn it. well this the worst time in it. i can't imagine... then my teachter said i will definitey give you highest mark in the hole class.. carp i don wants it. it just like.. what the hell i did the worst common test in EBS.. and i got 30/50 for my first EBS Project _ Express solo. What was the worst one.. well i don't really know what i can do next.. i scared that thier skill will impove just become of me.. and i got left behide.. well, i need to do some thing quick before it too late.. sian =(
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